Die Verwirrungen des Zöglings Törleß

Die Verwirrungen des Zöglings Törleß Like His Contemporary And Rival Sigmund Freud, Robert Musil Boldly Explored The Dark, Irrational Undercurrents Of Humanity The Confusions Of Young T Rless, Published In While He Was A Student, Uncovers The Bullying, Snobbery, And Vicious Homoerotic Violence At An Elite Boys Academy Unsparingly Honest In Its Depiction Of The Author S Tangled Feelings About His Mother, Other Women, And Male Bonding, It Also Vividly Illustrates The Crisis Of A Whole Society, Where The Breakdown Of Traditional Values And The Cult Of Pitiless Masculine Strength Were Soon To Lead To The Cataclysm Of The First World War And The Rise Of Fascism More Than A Century Later, Musil S First Novel Still Retains Its Shocking, Prophetic Power

Austrian writer He graduated military boarding school at Eisenstadt 1892 1894 and then Hranice, in that time also known as M hrisch Wei kirchen, 1894 1897 These school experiences are reflected in his first novel The confusions of young T rless He served in army during The First World War When Austria became a part of the Third Reich in 1938, Musil left for exile in Switzerland, where he

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  • 176 pages
  • Die Verwirrungen des Zöglings Törleß
  • Robert Musil
  • English
  • 14 March 2019
  • 9780142180006

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    the place is an exclusive all boys boarding school in Austria the time is the turn of the 19th century three boys T rless, Beineberg, and Reiting Reiting is an amiable, energetic sort his aggressive nature is balanced by his charm and ease in the world Beineberg is an anti intellectual intellectual much like his father, he yearns to be a mystic in T rless, still waters run deep and much of the material world holds little interest for him contemplation and melancholy are his hallmarks what are three such precocious lads to do with themselves there is the village whore to spend time with, but these boys interests go further what to do, what to do how about find a fellow schoolchum, learn about his weaknesses, and then grind him into nothing torment and humiliate, beat, sexually abuse and so there is a fourth boy Basini the three boys play with him The Confusions of Young T rless was published in 1906 by Robert Musil apparently it is autobiographical in nature it is a philosophical treatise and a classic coming of age novel although the novel s narrative is centered around the endless debasement of the passive Basini, that degradation is not at all the novel s primary concern it is there in the title the book is about confused young T rless his quest for logic in an illogical world and his need to quantify the ineffable and his barely understood desire for transcendence, for an escape from small minds and fixed roles and dualistic morality a boy will fight against his surroundings, he will struggle with authority figures, he will be cynical without experiencing enough of the outside world to earn that cynicism a boy will rationalize or a boy will simply choose not to think about things that disturb him a boy will strive, a boy will yearn, a boy will barely understand himself but a boy will try and he may force others to do the same there are worms a worm is a symbol of decay or rebirth a cord dangling from drapes looks like a writhing worm in the moonlight there is a red worm of blood that trickles down Basini s face.there is an eye T rless sees it in the boys secret hideaway it is an eye made of dust motes and shadows and dim shafts of light he sees it in the midst of one of Basini s beatings he contemplates it what does this eye behold what is the story of this eye there are windows windows are a window to the unknown T rless stares through many windows windows are a window to memory T rless recalls sounds he once heard through windows the sky is a window T rless stares at the sky and is filled with awe, wonder, and fear T rless is a thinker, T rless is a dreamer T rless has disturbing feelings some about his mother, some about the local whore, some about Basini T rless has hallucinatory dreams with meanings he can only slightly grasp he tries to share these feelings, these dreams, but no one ever understands.T rless, T rless, T rless oh, T rless you and your yearning, your dreams fuck you, T rless of the three boys, I think you are the worst Reiting likes Basini to read him stories about conquering heroes then he fucks and beats him Beineberg likes to use Basini as a footrest, make him bark like a dog, beat him sometimes he fucks him T rless asks Basini searching questions about how he feels, what is going on inside of him while all of this is happening he makes Basini speak when Basini would rather cry sometimes he fucks him guess who Basini falls in love with Reiting and Beineberg s motivations are banal despite Beineberg s laughably pretentious attempt to intellectualize his predations they are cruel boys who enjoy brutalizing someone under their thumb T rless is not like them, he s a sensitive lad he wants to understand many things, imaginary numbers and order vs chaos and the logic of dreams unlike his friends, he is not a malevolent sort and his sexual arousal at Basini s tortures confuse him poor, confused T rless Basini means nothing to him, he considers him to be meaningless except as one of many puzzles he is desperate to figure out fuck you, T rless your confusions are nothing compared to what you and your buddies dole out the problem with this thoughtful, absorbing, boring, poetic, mechanistic, frustrating, compelling, often brilliant novel is that it is exactly like its title character it is not about the debasement and T rless key role there it is all about our protagonist s struggle, his inner life well, it was a bit hard for this reader to focus on such things when throughout all of the philosophical musings are brief descriptions of the boys predations the intellectualization of such acts, their use as metaphor, all the world s a play and we are merely actors on a stage, what goes on behind the curtain and within a mind honestly I don t give a flying fuckeroo about all that when some weak kid is getting destroyed by stronger kids you used the wrong metaphor, Musil all the philosophical musings I would say 90% of the novel were rendered obnoxious and uninteresting after it became clear that Musil himself is disinterested in what is happening to Basini like the novel s protagonist, the author also views Basini as meaningless Musil, you are like T rless you make that crystal clear and that is not a good look.

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    Readers who associate boarding school fiction with sneaky midnight feasts, harmless pranks or wizardry may come to find the introspection of young T rless s education not only shocking but also too dense Musil is not so much interested in investigating the exterior world of the protagonist, and chooses instead to look deeply into the psychological and moral awakening of youth Young T rless drifts through interior monologue, to dreamlike sequences, to the horrors of life away from home, where punishment is dished out by some nasty little brats that were deplorable I wanted to drop them down a deep well But If I m honest, I didn t really like anybody, and it didn t come as a surprise to me either T rless was clearly, sexually speaking, in a muddle, and afraid to confront his own feelings and desires He seems to suggest that for one to live a normal life, one must regulate the depth to which one wants to explore one s desires or the extent to which one wants to obey them Yet, the he refuses to interrogate those feelings that draw him closer to his friend, the deeper the internal torments In a way, it s interesting that parts of the novel can be seen as an early indication to the rise of fascism, and it s written well enough, which I expected anyway, but I found there really wasn t much to like, especially the second half If I had to write down a list of things I wouldn t want to read about again, then sadistic bullying would definitely be somewhere near the top.

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    IntroductionNote on the TextSelect BibliographyA Chronology of Robert Musil The Confusions of Young T rless Explanatory Notes

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    That moment when you realize that having your head in the clouds is not always a good thing In short, the confusions of Young Torless are the confusions of all who wonder how the seemingly rational person can become embroiled in the heinous But also And suddenly and it seemed to him as if it had happened for the very first time Torless became aware of how incredibly high the sky was It was almost a shock Straight above him, shining between the clouds, was a small, blue hole, fathomlessly deep He felt it must be possible, if only one had a long, long ladder, to climb up and into it But the further he penetrated, raising himself on his gaze, the further the blue, shining depth receded And still it was as though some time it must be reached, as though by sheer gazing one must be able to stop it and hold it The desire to do this became agonizingly intense 87 Young Torless is a thoughtful youth, and by that I mean that his head is full of the thoughts typical of youth of conventional, nascent navel gazers Not thoughts for others, but the poetry of self indulgence The things that occur to people when they have a surfeit of time and a dearth of responsibility Yet none are sustained for long enough to be useful and are abandoned at the first vertiginous point Now Torless began to think about this, making an effort to be as calm and rational as he could Of course there is no end, he said to himself, it just keeps going on and on forever, into infinity He kept his eyes fixed on the sky, saying this aloud to himself as though he were testing the power of a magic formula 87 88 One might be tempted to glimpse one s own early musings in this military boarding school boy Who hasn t been startled by the concept of imaginary numbers Who hasn t experienced the shock of starting with concrete operations, lapsing into impossibilities of i, suspending disbelief long enough to find a couple of canceling squares for your nasty roots, and coming out on the other side with something both intelligible and meaningful Who hasn t thought that reading philosophy was pointless because Kant already nailed it all down in a couple of dusty tomes But it was no use the words meant nothing, or rather, they meant something quite different, as if, while dealing with the same subject, they were taking it from another side, one that was strange, unfamiliar and irrelevant Infinity But now it flashed through him, with startling clarity, that there was something terribly disturbing about this word It seemed to him like a concept that had been tamed and with which he himself had been daily going through his little circus tricks and now all of a sudden it had broken loose Something surpassing all comprehension, something wild and annihilating, that once had been put to sleep by some ingenious operation, had suddenly leapt awake and was there again in all its terrifying strength There in the sky, it was standing over him, alive and threatening and sneering 88 It is the re reading of precisely these lines that points up what I find utterly terrifying about this book Torless descent is than one of complaisance or complicity, it must be recognized as commissive simplified Torless, and two other classmates, Reiting and Beineberg torture a younger, weaker coeval, by physical beatings, sexual assaults, mental abuse though I can see Torless defense attorneys reading for a plea down What makes matters even repugnant is the ease with which the perpetrators distance themselves from the victim and the detachment of the adult rectors who seem eager to latch onto some muddy metaphysical rationalizations during the proceeding, farcical inquest The sum is the disconcerting feeling of staring into an evil abyss, which is rendered all the stomach churning by its banality Or maybe it s just the passivity of the individual infected by the sickness of herd Here Reiting discusses changing the tactics for abusing the victim, shifting from individualized brutality to mob blindness lines which I believe are responsible for the book s blurb claiming that this work prefigured the rise of Nazism, at least from a group psychological standpoint We can turn it over in our minds, polish it up and keep on adding new refinements Without the appropriate details it s still a bit of a bore, for the present Perhaps we ll hand him right over to the class to deal with That would be the most sensible thing to do If each one of so many contributes even a little, it ll be enough to tear him to pieces And anyway, I have a liking for these mass movements Nobody means to contribute anything spectacular, and yet the waves keep rising higher and higher, until they break over everyone s head You chaps just wait and see, nobody will lift a finger, but all the same there ll be a terrific upheaval Instigating a thing like that gives me really quite particular pleasure 174 175 Awful stuff Gah So, how can I rate this four stars I guess it is simply this Musil s prose which the book s blurb so accurately describes as claustrophobic and poetic is immersive and engaging The reader is bound and horrified Further, I ve never been able to understand the phrase the banality of evil Now, I might.Note I read the Wilkins and Kaiser Englishing, which was so good I forgot I was reading a translation.

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    The Confusions of Young Torless is an incredible book, reminiscent at times of Rilke in its ability to wrestle with complex spiritual and psychological themes Reading this book was like constantly trying to grasp something slightly abstract, slightly out of reach, though very human and real and rooted in language This is an ambitious though short book, an extremely thoughtful and difficult read.Maybe it is fitting that the book is so hard to describe, since one of its main themes is the ineffable ness of certain human experience One thing the book is NOT about, however, is the devastating effects of the abuse of power as it states in the back of the book Sure, that s what happens, but the author s focus seems determinedly off , always in the head of young Torless, who approaches the events that unfold with a much deeper and complex inquisitiveness than the simple moral lesson parable suggested in that blurb.At the center is the metaphor of imaginative numbers Torless learns of them in math class, and spends some pages thinking about how we can start with something completely real, apply an element that does not exist to it but we pretend it does, temporarily, just for the sake of conjecture and that the logical result of that because the imaginative numbers eventually cancel each other out on both sides of the equation is a real result But that the bridge between the two real worlds is one that s completely made up.This metaphor, though not always explicitly stated, can be applied to many of the themes in this book the way our conceptions of self are propped up by a set of lies we tell ourselves, the way we conduct our lives in the daytime differently from at night though we need the night as a bridge to get to the next day , the way we can be completely rational with our thoughts even though we are essentially emotional and irrational beings.The confusion of young Torless becomes our confusion as he thinks obscurely about these themes among many others guilt, shame, pride, sexuality, the contradictions of the self, coherence between mind, body, and soul and how we smooth over these contradictions of ourselves The writing itself is sometimes very confusing, I often found myself lost in what the book was trying to say especially in the first 50 pages, which seemed at times aimless , but it is that effort that slowly begins to make sense as the book reveals itself as the book gets less and less abstract, the writing itself becomes tangible.

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    T rless is confused Indeed, the title of this book, in some editions not mine , is The Confusions of Young T rless Skimming the plot surface of this book, T rless is a student in an Austrian military school Two student friends of T rless find out that yet another student, Basini, has been stealing small amounts of money They proceed to sadistically, homosexually torture him T rless finds himself aroused, and, thus, confused.T rless finds himself in a frequent sudden lassitude with a queer uneasiness a tingling in his brain a fine toothed doubt a vague feeling a foreboding that he was wasting his time a dense, gluey boredom a queer state that kept him awake utterly mangled with his suffocating heart he lay there, all wrapped up in his memories to say nothing of the light flittering feet of innumerable iridescent lizards.I would have appreciated a sign that said HERE BE LASSITUDE There are works of literature that are about one thing, but are really about the author s struggle with sexual identity I had a professor that was certain Kafka was crying out Young T rless is inside out of that The plot is all about four boys engaged in homosexual acts, but that s not the point Smarter folks than me have called this a chilling foreshadowing of the coming of Nazism New York Times Book Review But that s about 30 years of foreshadowing, so I don t know In order to fully understand what Musil is talking about in this novel, Nazis or otherwise, you d need to have a working understanding of mathematical imaginary numbers and the philosophy of Immanuel Kant I don t and you can t make me.

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    Bu nas l bir psikolojik tahlil, ifade yetene i, belagat a t m kald m Musil e Mihail Bahtin dostum a z m doldura doldura diyorum ki halt etmi sin, zg n m

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    The Confusions of Young Robert MusilSemi autobiographically little Robert slowly develops into an adolescent Sensitive and insecure in the company of equally insecure boys without qualities, except being of respectable aristocratic families Coming of age in a boarding school environment where everyone is eager to prove his manhood either by showing traces of intellect, by being the master bully or bragging of imaginary amorous adventures The long and winding road leading to climax is very foreseeable for a man who studied both psychology and philosophy and even graduated the latter cum laude, the descriptions of the mechanisms at work in groups is quite weak Controversial for it s time Maybe, but even in Austria it was an open secret what boys did together after dark There is nothing of real interest to be obtained from this work, no new insight into human soul or behavior and nothing of historical significance In short, it was a waste of time.

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